Stirring the Pot

November 4, 2009 § 7 Comments

Well, Maine had it’s vote on gay marriage.

In which I most likely alienate both sides of the issue.

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An invitation

July 16, 2007 § 6 Comments

Hello folks! I have created a community for those individuals interested in Church history, and how it impacts us today. It is called earlychurch. I want to invite all of you to join, and if you do, to also post this invite into your own journal to your Christian filter (should you have such a thing!)

The focus of this group is to study the writings of our earliest brethren from the first couple of centuries– the pre-Nicene writings of such as Tertullian, Justin, Irenaeus, Clement and the like. The purpose of our discussions is to explore how their writings might inform our understanding of Scripture. It is important that they not supersede Scripture, but be used as a tool to better understand how those of the first two or three centuries lived the faith that was handed down to them by the Apostles, and see how (and if) we measure up in our faith today.

Some sites to visit for more information of what the earliest believers actually believed and practiced are Scroll Publishing, which also has links to local churches that are attempting to get back to this primitive faith and practice; The Guide to Early Church Documents; The Works of Tertullian; Earlychurch.com; and a link to the first 10 volumes of the Ante-Nicene Writings.

Some other sites of interest are: Blueprint for a Revolution by Reed Merino, Nonresistance.org which has writings from Christians and non-Christians about the peace witness. Tread carefully, many of the writings are still wed to the world.

I do not expect that everyone will agree with what they will find in the early writings, nor are all of the writings in perfect accord with Scripture. But overwhelmingly, the farther back one goes in examining them, the closer to a literal understanding of Christ’s words, and those of His Apostles, one finds. It is my hope that a dialogue may be opened to explore where we are today, how we got here, whether we could be in a better place, and how that might be accomplished. I’m praying for open hearts and open minds.

My desire is to promote unity in the Body of Christ, and my hope is that we may grow in ever greater surrender to our Lord and Master through a deeper understanding of what His expectations of us may be, that our love for Him and one another may grow and that our joy may be made full.

Please join me for discussion!

God’s peace,

DT

Who is ultimately responsible?

October 25, 2006 § 10 Comments

In this article about German police dragging crying homeschoolers into class, the Germans defend themselves with all this garbage about the responsibility of “educating the children” and so forth.

Well who is truly responsible for educating any child? Shouldn’t it ultimately be the parents? Yes we have public schools but those quite frankly are a new developement in human history and it’s not really the state’s responsibility to educate the children. And while it is nice that they want to do that, it’s really actually quite terrifying that ultimately what they will end up doing is completely indoctrinating a whole generation. As Hitler intended. And as Hitler in fact DID.

It can and will happen again.

Recycled post

December 7, 2005 § 12 Comments

So, that last meme had me going over my older posts, and this is literally one of the first posts I made. I thought I would re-post it, since I didn’t know most of you at that time.

Old Post about church and state!

Peace on earth, good will towards all men…

December 4, 2005 § Leave a comment

Been having a discussion. Wanted to post about it here, but cannot seem to organize my thoughts to make a proper post, so thought maybe I would just post the linkie. It’s a discussion that picks up on a criticism of Austine’s “just war doctrine.”

In case you couldn’t guess, I was the critic. 😉

Something to wrestle with any time of year, but in the Christmas time, when we are reminded of peace on earth, it is particularly pointed.

Stick a fork in me, I am DONE!!!

February 24, 2005 § 4 Comments

Woo-hoo! I am sooo happy to be done with that CUBE! The cube of death and dismemberment is finally done, and I must shout for joy! Ok so it is less craft-worthy than I could hope for, and it is a 1/2 inch shorter than necessary… But I’m out of wood, there’s a snowstorm outside, and Utrecht is closed by now anyway.

Besides. I DON’T CARE I DON’T CARE I DON’T CARE!!! *happy dance* I’m done! I’m Done! I’m so happ-eeeeeey! *snoopy dance*

I never dreamed that perfectionist me could be satisfied with a less than perfect product. But I think i’m learning to be satisfied. lol Big time!

Now, it is possible that class will be cancelled tomorrow due to the storm. *pursed lips* I hope not. I am DONE and want to turn this thing IN and be done with it FINALLY.

Tonight I was thinking about something frodo-esque said to me on ASF yesterday. She was surprised at my… progressive view of proselytizing: I believe that we Christians should not be involved in legislating morality. It is a no-win situation. When it comes to such hot button issues as abortion, gay marriage, euthanasia, marijuana, and so forth, we have a voice, yes, but we should not scurry about trying to enforce laws that may or may not stick. We saw how badly THAT backfired with the 19th amendment. This is not to say that I think that legalized pot weighs in as equal to children’s lives. My point is that we are not going to convince anyone of right and wrong if they just don’t see it that way.
Christians have been called out of this world and are *supposed* to be mere sojourners, just passing through here. Just like we would resent it if some French tourists came in and started haranguing our judicial system, so the World feels about Christians coming in and telling them how to do things. It just does not compute– it’s a different system.
You can’t tell the government of Singapore it’s wrong to cane evil-doers. It’s their law and the way they do things.
Should we be outraged about the millions of children that are murdered each year for the sake of convenience? yes. But they would be better served by coming up with real solutions for both mother and child, rather than trying to scream at them till we’re blue in the face.
Better counseling up front– before girls become pregnant; better faster access to the families that want children but cannot have them, more love and grace in meeting the needs of the girls and women who find themselves facing these difficult choices.
The fact is abortion is a reality. That won’t change quickly. How are we going to meet the needs in the present state of things with grace and mercy?

I explained how in this response: Who said I don’t preach the Word? Oh, I preach, sister, let me tell you! lol
Yes, Christians are called to go out into the world and make disciples, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. But Jesus said nothing about overthrowing governments and making them adhere to “our” way of thinking. We are instructed to serve, honor and respect the governing bodies and leaders placed over us, but we are also told to come out from among them. To be a separate people. I fully believe in separation of Church and State, tho maybe not the way liberals in this country may try to define it.
The apostle Peter called the Church a “Holy Nation”, and Christians “strangers in a strange land.” We are told in Scripture that this world is not our home, so don’t get too comfy here.
Arguing over legislation isn’t going to save anybody (in the metaphysical sense– I guess I should qualify.) No one is going to listen to me if they don’t believe that I love them and truly have their best interests at heart. I am concerned with real people. Not faceless masses. All I can do is relate the truth to those I come in contact with. If I am doing what I’m supposed to be doing, and nurturing true loving relationships with the people around me, then that love will be infectious. You cannot (or should not anyway– if I’m doing it right) know me without knowing the Love that lives within me. And if your heart is open to that Love, then you will know my God the way I know my God. Without me beating you over the head with platitudes and screaming at you that you need to be “saved”.

I think it is important to note that for me it is a forgone conclusion that most folks will not hold to or understand the views I have. I also assume that they won’t believe me just “’cause I say so.” So in presenting matters that are spiritual, I am always ready and willing to explain when asked, but KNOW that what I have to say probably will not be embraced and so I don’t take it personally, and I try not to force it down folks throats (stop giggling Donna. I said *try*. 😉 )

I suppose rather than progressive, my stance is a tad bit more philosophical. For those who have ears to hear, listen. 😉

*singing the “I’m Done Song”*

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